Fletch Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) Just a thought, would love some input both good and bad. Am having a trial shipping run. I am seriously considering using med size orange juice drink bottles. Well washed of course. These could then be slid into and packed tight inside the cylinder. Would this work?? I really want to use the cylinder pack as cheaper and less chance of damage. Will get the tiny cylinder bags of someone in the future but would the orchy bottles work?? Thoughts?? Edited July 30, 2011 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 When they are being knocked around its quite a hard surface to run into. Other than that I think It' a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Hi Busman paul Are you prepaired to drink that much soda? How is the insulation in the cylinders? I would think container that would help keep a constant temp a better alternative just a thourt Cheers les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) If I surround the bottles with paper and seal cylinder then it should be somewhat insulated. Overnight ...so hoping they will survive. Each bottle hold about 500ml so fill it 2/3. Edited July 30, 2011 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Have you tested to see if they leak from the cap? Plus I'll echo the concerns about heat loss and hard surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Good point Razzi. Will test that and was also going to tape lid as well. Heat is my biggest concern. In summer I am not worried but winter...........not sure. Have been told others do it so this is a test. I know at the other end the fish will get the immediate attention required so that's a relief. Wouldn't have thought the sides of the bottles would be too hard. When I have had fish in takeaway containers, you see the water slopping around but this fish doesn't move much. The bags I have won't fit inside the cylinder. Only if I fill inside cylinder which would make it a tight fit, then worried they will pop if something dropped on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaObsessed Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Those tubes literally get thrown around and squished into the smallest spaces in the delivery vans. Also, if the cylinder is on its side is the water going to be deep enough as that's more often than not how they are placed on the dlivery racks while waiting for the vans to pick them up. In actual transit they would more than likely be upright. Just some thoughts :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) Sarah just sent me some stuff in a foam box, I'll let you know how they travelled. Edited July 30, 2011 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 (edited) bubble wrap is a good insulator.... paper is too and it soaks up leaks..... check out your LFS - I got some small styrofoam boxes about 25 x 25 x 15 that were used to transport frozen foods - my LFS was going to throw them but i took them - they don' t buy from the same supplier now but if you check round they are brilliant for shipping small fish and once the box it taped its pretty strong.... Re fish sloshing round in bottles - you could put a bit of java moss in with them or hornwort to soften the ride...... I just received 4 x wild type Bettas in a small esky inside a satchel from Sydney and had no probs with their survival or health on arrival..... Edited July 30, 2011 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 java moss and longfinned bettas can be a bit troublesome i had one i transported from my house to a meetup and his dorsal got tangled in the moss rather tightly was hard to remove and for awhile remained crumpled but eventually went back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_troppo Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 If you want to test sending to cairns. I am your man (teen ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Transport is an interesting debacle..... I was throwing around some ideas with Kermadum when he was shipping out his dragon spawn.... I plan on shipping interstate with a most fantastic durable, strong, insulated and FREE resource! Go to your local GP and ask him to keep all the Vaccination boxes - they are these brilliant 3cm thick wall'd boxes, often about 30cm x 15 x 15cm with a secure lid. I have one that is so strong that I can stand on it to reach my upper tanks (STRONG!) They usually get thrown out by the dozen and GP's are generally happy to have them taken away. They'll cost a little bit more as they're bigger than the cylinders, but there is no chance of the direct casing that the fish are in, breaking or being damaged by rough handling. I get where you're coming from, but I've dropped a bottle of tonic (1lt) and had it explode form the force of the drop, that plastic isn't great after a certain amount of pressure. I'd recommend a few trials interstate, full of water and empty of fish! Keen to hear how you solve this, as I'll be following your lead down the track! -postmanNess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Going to see someone in the next few days, going to get some proper betta bags. Will ask her advice. She has been very helpful in the past and we have spoken to her about our plans and she was very supportive. Sorry for the delay Sarah but this all happened pretty quick and don't want to rush it. I want these fish to have the best chance at survival. :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 someone is now in Indonesia I beleive. The fish sarah sent in the black worm box all made it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 @Ness Im on to that box idea Ness thanks @ Busman as long as the box is strong and you put the right stickers on it IE LIve fish, This way up, Fragile after that its up to haveing a good carryer but I do think styren and papper even in summer as you dont want them to get to hot ether Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanger Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 @Ness - funny you mention Vax boxes. When I vet nursed we were required to return them. Hrm. @Busman - I wonder if you could look at wine postage options. possibly not cheap but should be well padded and sturdy and you know you'll get the right volume of liquid in there to keep a fish happy.Not that I'm suggesting you buy one of these for each fish you ship but we even have one of these at work http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/374759717/Bubble_Wine_Bag.html http://bubble-wrappackaging.com/wp-content/uploads/aes/Bubble-Wrap-Packaging-Shipping-Supplies_132.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumofthehoarde Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I dont know about in the city but we own a pharmacy in the country and we get heaps of eskys with our deliveries of medications. Our wholesalers dont want them back. You could try asking your local pharmacy too. We give ours away for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kertaz Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Once, I came to a LFS on the day they received new fish. They had the fish double (or triple) bagged, full of oxygen (or air) inside a styrofoam box, then inside a cardboard box. The problem would be on where to find a suitable sized boxes for the task. If it's too big, it'd cost a lot to send it over. If it's too small it'd be easy to be thrown around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billphil Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I just had an esky of fish sentr from Sydney (to Melbourne) which was clearly labelled LIVE FISH but the courier company obviously had difficulties in instruction handling and read it only as FISH and sent the parcel on a refrigeration shipment so that the fish would remain frozen and not thaw and spoil. I have just been at their office banging the esky on their desk and saying words to the person. They are going to replace the cost but what a horrible waste of wonderful creatures. So be very very careful when shipping fish. There are idiots in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 That's horrible. Sorry for your loss. Your luck must be bound to change mate, stay positive. Can imagine the "words" you were saying to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billphil Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 That's horrible. Sorry for your loss. Your luck must be bound to change mate, stay positive. Can imagine the "words" you were saying to them. No they have obviously had a consultant review their customer complaints area. The person was a youngish lady and had such a look of pity for me on her face and I obviously had to be polite (ie not words screamed at 200 decibels and relating to various body parts and functions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Gee Bill you must have run over a black cat lately with all that's happened Courier's are not all the brightest crayons in the box.... I had a courier lady poke a hole in an esky (which had LIVE FISH) on the outside) - she told me proudly that she had done it as the esky was taped up so securely the fish might not get enough air to breathe..... She only barely understood when I explained she could have punctured the plastic bags that contained water that fish live in!!! Edited July 30, 2011 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Hi Busman Paul If you go on to the Aqua Bid forum ther is an artical a guy in America put in about shipping and how he rigs out his containers have a look it might give you some ideas and I will keep looking for other articals OK Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) I am about to send off my first shipment today. Rather than try and explain it, I took photos to document it... OK... Wish me luck! Edited July 30, 2011 by fishbites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_troppo Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Good luck and hopefully I will have own sent from you later :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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