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Gold Plakat Male ???? *5 pics*


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Ok, heres the thing.

As some of you may of seen in the other post, i was planning to spawn my grizzle male from vicki, and this gold 'female' from mick.

I decided to let the gold out thismorning and they started fighting, not like male female but like male male fighting. Not really any damage, but definite male flaring.

I took a few pics while they were together since they werent doing any damage (seperated right after)

What do you think?

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Phil, at this stage I have to say she is a female. with some bettas, they do not have a definite flaring technique, rather they make one up. For instance, do you remember that steel blue female 4-ray fry with the deformed head that i posted a photo of? well, when she was younger, she was quite aggressive with the males, and flarred exactly like the males did with the males, so I jarred her with her brothers thinking she was a he. about a week later, I noticed that she was FULL of eggs. so maybe you just have a very aggressive female, who isnt ready to spawn yet (i dont see eggs/ovaries) put her in a cylinder in the spawn tank with the male and see if she makes a bubblenest in answer to the other males challenges. ' or, give 'him/her' its own female and see if he wants her and makes a nest :dance: hth

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While at first inspection it looks female I just went and had a look at my ladies to compare and in my three paler coloured females there was a definate darker patch behind the pectoral fins, which your goldie doesn't have one visable. I know I'm not the brains in betta breeding but, to me, it looks like a rather fat male with an over prominant egg spot (sure most people have males with them) Then again, I could be wrong

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The main things that make me say male is, the more developed gills, the aggressiveness and the fact i cannot see the ovaries through the body. The ventrals are rather long, there is an eggspot, but that is very common with young males. You both have good points :dance:

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Phil, look at her gill membrane when she isnt flaring. is it dark colored? (that dont mean nothing, just easier to see) if you can see the gill membrane, and a male-sized portion of it moves downwards/outwards beneath her gills at her throat as she breaths,like a male's does, she may well be male. good luck :dance:

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The main things that make me say male is, the more developed gills, the aggressiveness and the fact i cannot see the ovaries through the body. The ventrals are rather long, there is an eggspot, but that is very common with young males. You both have good points :dance:

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Have you asked Mick if he got any Plakats in the spawn? With such clear pictures you would think we could be more help, but I have to say I really have no idea :dance: . If I went with my gut feeling I would say a girl. But the lack of a visible egg sack on such a light coloured fish does ring some alarm bells. Sorry not much help am I. Najina

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I have to say I really have no idea :dance: . If I went with my gut feeling I would say a girl. But the lack of a visible egg sack on such a light coloured fish does ring some alarm bells.

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Exactly what I was thinking.

goes and sits on the fence with Najina

:goodo:

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Phil I tried my gold from mick with my yellow BF boy and had the same response. Shes a huge fish and she could flare with the best of them. Her gills were flared out completely and she gave the boy a run for his money. It really did look like 2 boys also. Eventually she calmed down and started playing coy (though the boy is my big gay fish, so it was all fruitless) *runs to get a piccie of girl for show and tell*

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Sorry that line doesnt have plakat in it at all and i havent got any out of 4 rather large spawns from the parents .All the females seem to be fairly aggressive in that line but i'm darn near positive she is a she just put her in her jar and feed her up a bit more .I'm sure she will do the job .But I Have Been Wrong BEFORE

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Gee Phil, if you can find a boy who's enough of a man for her, she should be a beaut! Really testing out the male's worth is a great advantage in evolutionary terms. 'Survival of the fittest' refers to reproductive fitness and preservation of the best genes, after all. Maybe my boy just needs some lessons in machismo :goodo:

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