brettc777 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Was going through ebay and found this tank Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara_01 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 yea, i've seen them in petstores before, not much room in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Does it actually work as a toy truck? I mean do the wheels roll. So you can put your imported AquaBid fish in there and let your four year old completely stress them out? Is that the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettc777 Posted November 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 lol another ebay stunner in holding tank design Here Can imagine the little betta's eyes getting blasted by LED lights! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusdeb Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Or getting stuck in the water outlet flow and drowning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletalgirl Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Ive seen those too. The truck is one thing, (young boys first fish) but that round thing (it was called a bi-orb by the seller i saw) is stupid. I have even seen half round with flat back fish bowls that you hang on the wall. So not very practical at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Umm.... how does he breathe? Or is it not filled all the way to the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish4nic Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Umm.... how does he breathe? Or is it not filled all the way to the top? Yeah exactly!!! I'm no expert (or physicist for that matter) but I would say that the globe part of the tank would have to be full in order for the whole trickle thingthing to work...so totally not suitable for betta IMO I don't know why but for some reason the bettas' strengths seem to be challenged by weird set ups like these all the time... I can remember when I first went to buy one at the lfs and I was being sold a tiny 10cm cube and I looked at the size of the fish and the size of the cube and thought...he couldn't be happy in there! Or the one with the plant growing out the top and the roots in the bettas tiny little water chamber and very little if no surface air. And IMO if you are giving these things to kids it teaches them to disregard the proper care and nurturing positive aspects that pet ownership should bring ... kind of de-humanises or in this case de-fishalises them. OOooops I think I'll just hop off my soap box now....must be waay past my bed time :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2jdaze Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I've seen the truck thing before but the ball thingy with lights? I hate how people can be so ignorant... I join Nicole on her soapbox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 My first thought with seeing the globe one was the same as Bettarazzi...How do they breathe? I have seen the trucks before & wouldn't keep fish in there myself as I like my tanks to be bigger. I had never thought about whether the wheels were movable or not lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beano Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I thought I read somewhere that betta are facultative air breathers and they can still get oxygen from the water through their gills like regular fish do. But it's not their preference... ***EDIT - sorry I originally said obligate, I meant facultative (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2jdaze Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 they can breathe normal water but i'm pretty sure they HAVE to breathe surface air otherwise they'll drown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malignau Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 yup they require breathing from the surface. Scientists have done tests on bettas where they removed the breathing ability of the betta. They found that the betta drowned in a matter of hours. Without access to air our babies would all die =[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beano Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Maybe that one in the magic orb thing takes it's air from the side where the water flows out - be hard not to get sucked through though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 http://www.fishnflush.com/ This left me speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 yup they require breathing from the surface. Scientists have done tests on bettas where they removed the breathing ability of the betta. They found that the betta drowned in a matter of hours. Without access to air our babies would all die =[ Do you have a link to the study? It sounds like a good read It must have been a fair few hours because I've had them stuck under a breeding net and without surface air for several days without a problem (accidentally, the thing sank and landed upside down). With good oxygenation I would have thought that they could survive for quite a while. The only saving grace of that tricky orb contraption is that the little waterfall might help cool the water somewhat and get some sort of gas exchange, though I think it is a poor match for direct lighting and a 99% closed sphere-tank. How do you get the fish in there??? does it unscrew at the base? do you insert it through the spout?? The truck one has potential It reminds me of that silver Prius that the American aquarium (Monterey Bay maybe?) did up a few years back, and that big trout fishing/casting truck that they set up at fishing shows. Just much smaller. My favourite betta 'tank' at the moment is the one that clearly states on the side "may also be used as a pencil holder". I mean, really, come on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeletalgirl Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Danielle, Are they or is that serious!!??? It must be an ornament, surely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2jdaze Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 OMG at that toilet thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 They're dead serious - aqua one makes the actual tank part. I can't believe anyone would keep their poor fish in the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 That Fish n Flush thing is just wierd, I don't know why anyone would want that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Bettas have evolved in water that is almost devoid of dissolved oxygen. Evolving a labyrinth organ would have been a clear survival advantage. It was then easier to use the labyrinth organ than to rely on gill function. Therefore there was decreased selection pressure to maintain efficiency of gill function. Their gills basically became useless and increasingly inefficient at extracting oxygen from water. So when bettas cannot obtain oxygen from the air, they are at risk of suffocation, especially when the oxygen content of the water is low. This is just the logical evolutionary explanation based on the information I've collected. I hope malignau can give us that citation. Further, have you seen how quickly bettas panic when they can't break the surface even for a short moment? This would surely stress the fish out and contribute to a faster death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beano Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 I see how fast the fry panic! If they don't get their bubble out first go they're darting at the surface until it happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2jdaze Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 OK! I found another one, this is taking it way too far! I actually SAW this in a shop in melbourne this week, it was high up on the shelf so I couldn't reach it to have a close look but I had my trusty Mobile to grab this picture! Basically it holds about 500ml water tops and has a speaker underneath the "tank" you plug your Ipod or Mp3 player in to it and music comes out of the speaker... Now the 500ml tiny container is one thing.... but having a speaker directly under it... man i feel sorry for the poor Bettas who get dealt this hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodnight Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 I've heard of those. They can't appreciate being stuck in a tiny space with music blaring at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighter boy Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 i like how is says very clean, and compact design. what will they think of next indeed. this sort of product sickens me.... for more info on my oppinions go to www.freewebs.com/bettahomes.... its still in the middle of construction but you can access it at anytime to read the articles...... check it out and give us feed back via pm. who ever designed those little things deserve to be shot.... im sorry but thats how i feel about it... exploiting the fighters ability to survive in small confined spaces..... some people are just twisted.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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