Betta_Endeavours Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I found this on aquabid and I wrote to the breeder (no reply) and I asked someone to look at it (not even sure she's read my mail). Is this male really that colour and is it any good to use to breed more like him or is it a trick? http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auc...&1181306846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celeste84 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 the green looks like it's been enhanced in photoshop, but he'd probably be a very close colour as it hasn't been fiddled with much (the green has been saturated, that's all). edit: when i say "close colour" what i meant is that it looks like there's more irid than there actually is because of the saturation. he's have a sheen of green instead of solid colours as shown. just occured to me i didn't explain myself very well the first time ;; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Well, he looks like a metallic green marble to me. The head section seems to be an opaque section that has overexposed on the photo, but it doesn't look at all like it has been altered. Metallics are really very tricky to photograph, and trying to balance out that and the reflection would be quite a job. Being what looks like marble though, I'm not sure what you'd get if you bred him. The colour, probably, but the patterns would be much trickier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitstyles Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 doesn't matter if its photoshoped.. just look at the candal fins ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2jdaze Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 pretty fishy either way ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betta_Endeavours Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm after colour primarily and anything else good is just a bonus. I'm not hugely convinced that the picture is true colour and whether it's even the fish I'd bid on. What female would I need to get for him if I bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 not that we are suggesting that the breeder has photoshopped the picture. Be careful guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betta_Endeavours Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 No but using light/shadow and angle can give the wrong impression of what the Male is. I'd rather know it's a clever trick than buy a fish and find out I was the only one not to realise that the picture wasn't a true representation. I've emailed the breeder for more info including genetics of that male and his parents and possibly more pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 You would need a sibling female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I had a 'wild marble' male that was very similar to him and he had that really unique green colour. Its always best to email the seller and get further details before assuming the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betta_Endeavours Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm waiting to hear back from the breeder. I'm not saying it's a bad specimen but as yet I don't know if it's what I hope it's or what I'm after. Finding out the genetics will hopefully help me to see if it's viable and reproducable or if it's just great luck on the breeders part. Of course if it does work out to be what I want/am after then it's a question of how do I make that into a stable line and work it into something great over the next many years/decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 ...work it into something great over the next many years/decades. Could you be jumping ahead a teensy bit? ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celeste84 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 he is a very beautiful fish i love his marbling :3 i'd personally breed him to a teal female - probably one of nicks as the ones i bought off him have thrown great marbles and butterflies before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betta_Endeavours Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Ummm sorry my brain quit working for the night but Teal? I know turquoise but Teal is unknown to me sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Teal = Turquoise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitstyles Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm waiting to hear back from the breeder. I'm not saying it's a bad specimen but as yet I don't know if it's what I hope it's or what I'm after. Finding out the genetics will hopefully help me to see if it's viable and reproducable or if it's just great luck on the breeders part. Of course if it does work out to be what I want/am after then it's a question of how do I make that into a stable line and work it into something great over the next many years/decades. let's do it step by step b4 you even think about makin the line stable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I think teal is something other than turquoise. but I am delirious wth exhaustion so can't remember what the difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Isnt teal metallic turq? is turq metallic? WHERES NICK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betta_Endeavours Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 The didn't send me any genetics info which is a hassle. The sent me three pics that were taken at the same time. I'll take it that it's not a illusion but since I don't speak his language I'm not sure I can get the genetics info. If anyone can help me get the genetics info on him and his parents that would be great. *goes to bid* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Is teal the pastel version of turquoise? Too lazy to research properly. Outside of the betta world, would you normally expect a great deal of difference between teal and turquoise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 To set you at ease somewhat, that colour IS definitely possible. What genetics info are you after specifically? You can get a fair bit off the phenotype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betta_Endeavours Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I want/need to know exactly what he is and what his parents were. I also asked about sibbling females and if they were available to see what they look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celeste84 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 actually teal is turquise with TWO metallic genes. with one metallic gene it's a metallic green and with no metallic genes it's turq. i learnt that off nick :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 did you win him did you did you? you could google a english to thai translation or something and they have little input boxes that give you fairly decent results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 actually teal is turquise with TWO metallic genes. with one metallic gene it's a metallic green and with no metallic genes it's turq. i learnt that off nick So is teal more on the blue side and turquoise more on the green side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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