rainbowfish Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sorry he is very hard to photograph he is Mr zippy... Now he needs a GF I have no idea what to pair him with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I would stick with red type females. I would try to find a red butterfly girl but I suspect your choice will be limited so any red will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowfish Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) I like red... is there any reason black wouldn't work? I like interesting and unusual results... the unexpected, dragons? My choices expanded now I know express posting fish to where I am works... Oh should I stick to Veiltail types or would a HM female go ok? What about CT? Most of my 'pet store buys' I am doing outsdoors over spring and summer in pots tubs and ponds...so I have lots of room to grow the fry out with mozzie wrigglers I want the tough survivers...but if I spot anything extra special I will bring it indoors and fuss over it probably... Edited July 3, 2012 by rainbowfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 If you decide on red, I have plenty of Red VT girls I'll be looking to move on very soon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowfish Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thanks I'll keep you in mind. I have an advantage down here when it comes to what will I do with excess fry... should not have much trouble selling them off the petshops sell out in a hurry if they get nice ones in usually most go day one. I don't know of any other breeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 As long as you don't expect any real money for the veiltail varieties, most LFS can get them for less than a dollar per head. Personally I'd be looking at extending the ray distribution and creating a really lovely veiltail with a bit "more" in the tail.... there are some really lovely veiltails out there, in my opinion I'd be trying to improve your man's form It's really no mystery with what you'll get in terms of colour results, I guess the only surprises come when a fish looks solid colour but actually has marble genes hiding in there somewhere. So he's essentially red, I see a really light layer of iridesence over the top through the scales and over fins, he also has marble, giving him the butterfly effect with cellophane and white, but odd-on he'll change colour, the butterfly pattern isn't very clear on him. He's also got a very pale body, so cambodian or blond gene in there. Plus black - well you'll probably get multicolours, blue might pop out somehwere, but I'd say this sort of thing: Personally I'd find him a good extended red female: or look for a solid coloured salamander female (maybe butterfly) and then you'll get semi-predictable colouring, a really popular colour too I might add... and improve his form so the fish are desirable. (: Just some thoughts on outcomes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowfish Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Thanks, he does have some pale sparkly blue in the tail it didnt show up in the picture. I have another boy I scored for $7 he was one that had melt he got over it and bounced back better than ever. His colour has improved now he is a really rich red with a metallic blue sheen over his back end and tail, feisty as anything but getting a pic of him has been a challenge he just never stops racing around like a maniac he even flares at plants lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 If you like unexpected results then you could breed him with anything and just see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowfish Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 he dosn't have real flowly fins that could be improved, they are a bit narrow but I like the colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 If you're looking at breeding him to get more fish the same colour as him, then your best bet is to breed him with a red, yellow, orange or black female. Minimal irids is the idea. Any of these will give you red fish, the marble/butterfly thing will pop up randomly in the fry. A black female will probably mean the fry turn out dark bodies reds rather than Cambodian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_and_a_day Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 since he's a veiltail, i'd try breeding for colours not normally seen in the VT. maybe a dragon? (it might take a while for the scale to come out full force though) he's a cute little bugger ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Black crossed to red will often give you a brownish colour especially on the body. It would not be my choice because to get clean reds you need to get rid of black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowfish Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Maybe a red dragon then? What about Gold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Gold will give you reds. If you breed the offpring together or son back to gold mother you'll get golds back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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