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I would stick with red type females. I would try to find a red butterfly girl but I suspect your choice will be limited so any red will do.

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I like red... is there any reason black wouldn't work? I like interesting and unusual results... the unexpected, dragons? My choices expanded now I know express posting fish to where I am works...

Oh should I stick to Veiltail types or would a HM female go ok? What about CT? Most of my 'pet store buys' I am doing outsdoors over spring and summer in pots tubs and ponds...so I have lots of room to grow the fry out with mozzie wrigglers I want the tough survivers...but if I spot anything extra special I will bring it indoors and fuss over it probably...

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If you decide on red, I have plenty of Red VT girls I'll be looking to move on very soon :)

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Thanks I'll keep you in mind. I have an advantage down here when it comes to what will I do with excess fry... should not have much trouble selling them off the petshops sell out in a hurry if they get nice ones in usually most go day one. I don't know of any other breeders.

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As long as you don't expect any real money for the veiltail varieties, most LFS can get them for less than a dollar per head.

Personally I'd be looking at extending the ray distribution and creating a really lovely veiltail with a bit "more" in the tail.... there are some really lovely veiltails out there, in my opinion I'd be trying to improve your man's form

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It's really no mystery with what you'll get in terms of colour results, I guess the only surprises come when a fish looks solid colour but actually has marble genes hiding in there somewhere.

So he's essentially red, I see a really light layer of iridesence over the top through the scales and over fins, he also has marble, giving him the butterfly effect with cellophane and white, but odd-on he'll change colour, the butterfly pattern isn't very clear on him.

He's also got a very pale body, so cambodian or blond gene in there.

Plus black - well you'll probably get multicolours, blue might pop out somehwere, but I'd say this sort of thing:

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Personally I'd find him a good extended red female:

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or look for a solid coloured salamander female (maybe butterfly)

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and then you'll get semi-predictable colouring, a really popular colour too I might add... and improve his form so the fish are desirable.

(: Just some thoughts on outcomes!

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Thanks, he does have some pale sparkly blue in the tail it didnt show up in the picture. I have another boy I scored for $7 he was one that had melt he got over it and bounced back better than ever. His colour has improved now he is a really rich red with a metallic blue sheen over his back end and tail, feisty as anything but getting a pic of him has been a challenge he just never stops racing around like a maniac he even flares at plants lol

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If you like unexpected results then you could breed him with anything and just see what happens.

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If you're looking at breeding him to get more fish the same colour as him, then your best bet is to breed him with a red, yellow, orange or black female. Minimal irids is the idea. Any of these will give you red fish, the marble/butterfly thing will pop up randomly in the fry. A black female will probably mean the fry turn out dark bodies reds rather than Cambodian.

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since he's a veiltail, i'd try breeding for colours not normally seen in the VT.

maybe a dragon? (it might take a while for the scale to come out full force though)

he's a cute little bugger ^_^

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Black crossed to red will often give you a brownish colour especially on the body. It would not be my choice because to get clean reds you need to get rid of black.

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Gold will give you reds. If you breed the offpring together or son back to gold mother you'll get golds back..

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