kertaz Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 So I was window shopping yesterday and found these kids. Bought 5 of them, and 3 of them are plakads! They're not big enough for spawning (or at least 3 of them aren't), but here's hoping sometimes in the future! Problem is, they didn't sell any girls. So well.. I'm still kinda stuck with 1 CT black orchid girl which is now beaten up by the CT male. HM Yellow Delta/SD Yellow (I think this one has slight combtail - but has butterfly pattern. The hardest to take pic, so the head isn't included in the pic..) The Plakads!! This one was sold as MG, but I'm not sure. Could be female. He/She wasn't interested in flaring when I took picture of him/her. What kind of girl should I look for the boys above? (especially to improve those boys' forms) Colour wise, would a copper girl match with any of them? What about opaque? Thanks for looking! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 *lol* and I thought I was bad with my impulse buys... I'll wait for someone with a little more genetic knowledge to chime in with what you should get apart from the obvious (HM yellow female) If you were willing to put in the work, you could put your black orchid girly with that orchidy looking HMPK boy and work on creating some Black Orchid CTPKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kertaz Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 CTPK! That's an awesome suggestion. The thought didn't come to my mind! I was thinking maybe crossing the CT girl with the slightly combtail SD/D Butterfly Yellow boy and uh.. what would I end up with? That reminds me too, how did your attempt to create CTPK with Busman go? The plakad above the orchidy looking PK seems like a yellow orchid? lol (I think patterns look similar to the orchidy plakad but spread on yellow instead of black) What would yellow orchid plakad X black orchid CT produce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 A mess! You'll get multi coloured combtails. You most certainly get a lot of red wash. You'll get some yellow back in the second generation... Busman and I have had no luck. None of our fish like one another. I'm about to try a blue yellow CT x HMPK cross. The blue female carries yellow, so hoping for yellow "orchid" CTPKs down the track. When doing a colour cross like that, it helps to know the background of the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) Hey kertaz, crossing the black PK with the yellow PK is likely to give you red fish with the same amount of blue irid distribution (minimal blue). If the black fish has non-red heritage, you might get some that look like the yellow one. Also you will probably get some "chocolate" coloured fish if the black one has non-red genes (ie brown). edit: BTW that last one - definitely a boy. Unsprouted yellow delta. Looks to have dragon influence in irids too. Might get more blue as it grows to give it more of the "mustarg gas" appearance but I dought the colours will deepen much more than what you're already seeing. Edited March 18, 2012 by paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Hey Felix, whereabouts are you in Indonesia? There are some good breeders I can hook you up with if you're interested in getting better quality fish. The guys I know all travel to Thailand and around SE Asia regularly to attend IBC shows so even if they're not breeding what you're looking for, they can always bring something back for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kertaz Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Thanks for the insight, all! Razzi, i'm located in Jakarta. Would be good if you can hook me up with a breeder around :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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