Keith88 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 g'day i was wondering if there are any apple snail breeders in Austraila ?. i been looking high and low for pink/blue Pomacea bridgesii, and i don't think we have them here ? all i can find are black wild type and the golden ands the cross red yellow stripe. if anyone is Australia has blue/pink snails could you pleas tell me where you got them from. failing that would anyone be interested in starting a breeding program with the goals of breeding new color strains ? also would any genetic gurus be able to give advise on how to encourage color mutations in Pomacea bridgesii, other then selective breeding ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies Betta Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 I like this idea. I once had the blue bodied (the slug part, not the shell) ones, but they didn't breed and slowly one by one died off. this was a couple of years back so I can't actually remember where I got them from. I think that if you can get a variety of different colours/types then people would deff be interested in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 I searched high and low for snails with more interesting colours a while back, and reached the conclusion that they haven't reached Australia. I have wild type, jade, golden with stripes, and I am breeding them, but they are only producing more of the same colours, nothing new and interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Be careful what you say on a public forum - AQIS is on the warpath at the moment and bringing anything into Australia that's not on the permitted list can be pretty costly. Re snails - I have mystery snails - some white/pink bodies and others with a dark blueish body - shell colours go from dark brown to dark brown/yellow stripes to total yellow. Haven't really taken much notice of them apart from that - they lay plenty of eggs so breeding / crossing would be fine if you can work out the gender of a snail. I'd be interested in trying to breed some nice coloured snails though if they are legally available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 re gender of the snail...aren't all snails like common garden snails and hermaphrodites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishbites Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Nope - mystery snails need a male and a female to breed (or so I've read). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Jodi-Lea mentioned possibly being able to source some interesting NATIVE snails a while back. Maybe it's worth contacting her (fishchick) and seeing what she can supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyarlla Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Mystery snails do need male and female. I had 2 males for 2 years and no eggs, but I went out and got 2 females and suddenly they were breeding (yes, physically) like crazy and I now have lots of babies about 1 cm in shell width. I would certainly be interested in breeding other coloured mystery snails and I have previously seen blue tinged mystery snails for sale at a lfs but they were $7 each and this was about 6 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 What part of them were blue tinged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyarlla Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 The shell was like a whitish blue grey. They were being sold as "baby blue mystery snails" They werent that great tbh, they werent very blue which was why I passed them over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJay Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 someone mentioned possibly being able to source some interesting NATIVE snails a while back. Maybe it's worth contacting her (someone) and seeing what she can supply. there sure are some great native snails. I'm guessing she would be able to source Nerite snails? and possibly spiny river snails (Thiara amarula) ? Waterhouse snails are a nice one too from aquagreen, (is it ok to mention other sites here?) some say they eat BGA too. Anyway, good luck with the breeding program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 The shell was like a whitish blue grey. They were being sold as "baby blue mystery snails" They werent that great tbh, they werent very blue which was why I passed them over. I woulda prolly bought them, even if they aren't all that they would still contribute new and interesting genes that could be improved down the line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 there sure are some great native snails. I'm guessing she would be able to source Nerite snails? and possibly spiny river snails (Thiara amarula) ? Yep, those were the ones! Re mystery snails, I'm not sure what species they are for sure, what colours are you guys thinking of specifically? The only ones I've ever seen anywhere on the net are the kinds we already have here, blues and browns and striped. It is also worth bearing in mind that other colours from OS might be different species too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 there sure are some great native snails. I'm guessing she would be able to source Nerite snails? and possibly spiny river snails (Thiara amarula) ? Yep, those were the ones! Re mystery snails, I'm not sure what species they are for sure, what colours are you guys thinking of specifically? The only ones I've ever seen anywhere on the net are the kinds we already have here, blues and browns and striped. It is also worth bearing in mind that other colours from OS might be different species too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 there sure are some great native snails. I'm guessing she would be able to source Nerite snails? and possibly spiny river snails (Thiara amarula) ? Yep, those were the ones! Re mystery snails, I'm not sure what species they are for sure, what colours are you guys thinking of specifically? The only ones I've ever seen anywhere on the net are the kinds we already have here, blues and browns and striped. It is also worth bearing in mind that other colours from OS might be different species too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 In Europe you can get every colour of bridgesii you could ever imagine, the shells can be purple, green, blue, ivory, pink, purple etc etc, and all with or without stripes. Bridgesii is the only species you can get here in Aus as far as I know, but here they are all boring. I'm originally from Europe so I spend a lot of time in a European forum, and they are all always showing off their pretty snails, and I want one so badly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I stand corrected! We have the ones listed as common on the chart on the linked site, as far as I can tell, bearing in mind that the descriptions themselves say colours vary widely: http://www.angelfire.com/va/myevolution/snails/bridgesii.htm The others are all rare OS in any case, but it would be nice to have them here! The genes might well be already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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