splendidbetta Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Does anyone know if there are guppies that have been bred to have 180* caudal spreads? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I didn't see them, but Phil apparently had some guppies at the first SBG that were practically 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Oh awesome, did anyone take pics? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killimike Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Of course not! That would have been way too sensible I wish I had. I think Davo took them home in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribletegs Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 No 'halfmoon' variety is recognised by the IFGA, but I'm sure there are people out there trying to breed them! You'd start with a delta tail and select for increased spread and better carriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Thanks I found this photo. Not quite HM but close. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/275275...52966dd1b_o.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbygodz Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I saw them Stefan. From memory they carried about the same caudal as your pic, though their form was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davo Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 No, they weren't 180 degrees.. They were more or less 150 However, they sort of died off a month or so back..so sorry folks <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribletegs Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 The fish in the photo looks more like a roundtail with really good spread. Maybe try starting with roundtails then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Thanks guys It might be an interesting project someday :fun: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Yep there are guppies with 180* spread, some slightly over in both male and female. I was importing these gorgeous things from Malaysia earlier in the year but found that they were a small bodied fish with a massive tail and i think this lead to them being a weaker strain. These days weve gone back to importing from srilanka where the strongest guppies in the world come from, but unfortunatly tail size/spread is second to bright colour and thick strong bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted September 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Thanks Phil Would it be fairly straightforward to combine the big body and better fins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Ive got no idea on guppy breeding, but i figure it would take many generations, just like bettas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninoid12 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 ok, so what would you look for then to breed 180 guppies..... Both male and female with large spread only. Or one having very good body, other very good spread. I wouldnt mind trying this in my communal tank :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 My guess would be to get some starter stock with combinations of the traits we need, and then breed them together and go from there. If you could find good spread and big body on the same fish, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louu Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Ive been wanting to breed guppies for a good year now but never had the means! Ive always had a similiar idea (though not nearly as well developed) and would love to see what could come of it! But I wouldnt know where to get the right stock so.. guess not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUNGLE Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Ask someone.....she has the best guppies in Australia. On Aquabid atfg is selling 'half-sun' guppies that have the branching seen in HM Bettas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasfire Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I agree, some of the guppy's she had at her store on Sat were AMAZING! makes me want to get into breeding certain strains...but I don't have the room for all the tanks I want here...and I don't want to move lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUNGLE Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 To answer the question about selecting good parents...... I think the most important factor is the caudal peduncle. This muscle needs to be wide and strong enough to support increased finnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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