Peter16 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Just wondering what kind of fertilizers you use, dry? liquid? Both? Where do you obtain them from ? I will be using the PPS - Pro Method of fertalising. Does anyone else use this method ? Peter Edited February 23, 2009 by Peter16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghengis Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Flourish Excel. As well as the ubiquitous DIY CO2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter16 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 does excel have many fertilising properties ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divy Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 i use dino pee and spit dino pee is the same as excel and the spit is the ferts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 isn't excel a carbon fert, which would do the same thing as the Co2? I use dino dung in the substrate, DIY CO2 and a water column fert for pond plants! Used to use the whole flourish range, and made a week's worth at a time and added 1/7th a day. Probably need a specialist iron fert .. but that should be in the dino dung, being clay-based. Peter - what are you talking about, "PPE - Pro Method". I am intrigued. I could google it I suppose ... but tonight I feel like not being that person :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpiasente Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dino dung in the substrate dino pee and spit, love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter16 Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Ghengis would have heard of it. Its big in America, it was developed by a ferts enthusiest. I have been researching it all day and think i have a basic-sounds knowledge of it. In a nut shell, You combine these macro nutrients (as powders) K2SO4 – Potassium sulphate KNO3 – Potassium Nitrate KH2PO4 – Potassium Phosphate. MGSO4 – Magnesium Sulphate. and Dose – 1ml / 10g In conjunction with trace elements (TE) (micronutrients) Mn - manganese Fe - iron Zn - zinc Cu - copper B - boron Mo – molybdenum. In the states they have a product which combines these TE's called csm + b I am currently researching a mirror product in Aus, and Dino pee comes pretty close, still investigating it. According to the yanks this is the cheapest way to add ferts to your aquarium, as most liquid ferts contain these nutrients and essentially you are paying for 95% water. this way you make it yourself If your still interested I can expand more tomorrow, and can post the formuals for mixing the concoction. Edited February 22, 2009 by Peter16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Ghengis would have heard of it. Its big in America, it was developed by a ferts enthusiest. I have been researching it all day and think i have a basic-sounds knowledge of it. In a nut shell, You combine these macro nutrients (as powders) K2SO4 – Potassium sulphate KNO3 – Potassium Nitrate KH2PO4 – Potassium Phosphate. MGSO4 – Magnesium Sulphate. and Dose – 1ml / 10g In conjunction with trace elements (TE) (micronutrients) Mn - manganese Fe - iron Zn - zinc Cu - copper B - boron Mo – molybdenum. In the states they have a product which combines these TE's called csm + b I am currently researching a mirror product in Aus, and Dino pee comes pretty close, still investigating it. According to the yanks this is the cheapest way to add ferts to your aquarium, as most liquid ferts contain these nutrients and essentially you are paying for 95% water. this way you make it yourself If your still interested I can expand more tomorrow, and can post the formuals for mixing the concoction. let us know how u go with it pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 that's not what they call PMDD is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 It sounds like it could be. I use PMDD as liquid fert, DIY substrate ferts (like dino dung) and Dino spit as an alternative to Excel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter16 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Pmdd would probably be the pre made liquid equivalent, where you are paying for basically 95% water. This way you buy the smallest quantities of the chemicals you can find, Dave at aquagreen has them, and they last a very. very long time. If you want to read further see here: http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumap...lysis-feedback/ Im having trouble finding kno3. Using this method slows the plants growth rate down, but the new growth will be alot healthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 You could try these guys AusChems Do you still use CO2 with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter16 Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Thank you so much for posting that link I will get the kno3 from him, and all the others from Dave at Aqua. Yes you still use co2. I have not started using this yet. I will most likely be keeping a journal on how it goes. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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