fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 ARGH, I've been seeing spots ever since diving into the cory craze with an active enthusiasm in spotty corys. Problem with my spotty dots is that ID is driving me up the wall, but I think I have it sorted. OK so this is how it is. I bought 2 fish labelled c. julii (not that I was interested at the time). I came home and found out they were c. trilineatus, c. julii don't have the reticulated pattern on their head or solid line running down their body and apparently 95% of fish labeled c. julii are in fact c. trilineatus. (Pic: CORY in front and DORA's backside.) I've been looking for a couple more c. trilineatus corys to keep my current 2 (Cory and Dora) company. I found some in Auburn under the name c. julii but they were a bit dear so I placed an order in to my LFS to order me some c.julii, (I knew that if I ordered c.julii I'd get c. trilineatus, because that's was what the original batch were ordered under.) Well they were c.trilineatus (I'm 80% sure...I think ) but instead of the reticulated version I got a spotty form of c.trilineatus which resembles c.julii so closely it almost had be fooled when they first handed them to me. This is what I got: (Pic: SHORTY on bottom LINUS on top) Only these 2 (Shorty and Linus) are a fair bit more active and far less shy then Cory and Dora, especially Shorty, she's been scooting around my aquarium like she owns the place, bottom dweller my foot, Shorty must be the exception to this rule. They almost handed me a c.sterbai (another spotty cory) by accident but luckily they picked up on it before I paid (spotty corys all look the same to me in dim lighting ). So what I have learnt, if you want positive ID and straight forward answers stay away from spotty cory's at all costs. But if your into interesting, friendly fish, enjoy learning about cats (the fishy type of course), and surprises like me then spotty cory is the fish for you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I don't know ANYONE with true C. julii in Aus I had someone ask one of the suppliers why they kept ordering C. julii and kept ending up with C. trilineatus, and the supplier says "We sell more if we call them C. julii" !!!???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I know of someone that claims to have them, but I haven't seen pics. It's probebly spotty c. trilineatus like the ones I got today. They're really cute, they look like a different type of cory to my originals which is why I'm still a bit hesitant to say they are c. trilineatus, I'm fairly certain they are. I asked the same question to one of the staff at one of the LFSs I visited in the search for the elusive "correctly labeled c. trilineatus". The staff member said yeah they know but they label them like that because they order them like that :alright: . I even have an aquarium guide that has a pic of a c. trilineatus labeled as c. julii Oh and speaking of funny aquarium book stuff ups: Grab your copy of J, Goldstien (2001) "Bettas : a complete owners manual" pg 56 the pic of the brine shrimp hatchery is upside down!!! (clue: have a look at the tube and bottle on the shelf) ROTFL . OK back to spotty corys: Wish they could just label then the right name, it would make researching them so much easier. But then again I wouldn't have learnt as much as I did if they were labeled correctly. It's sort of a game now 'spot-the-julii' . I'll give a prize to the first person that finds a true c. julii at a LFS (I'm dead serious I will give a prize!!!) - send a pic of the fish and the name of the LFS. (it'll only be a small prize I'm afraid) but it'll be fun . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Klara, is that the book with the big red VT on the front? i have that, it took me a while to work out why the bbs hatchery looked wrong lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 There are 2 books that I know of with bright red VTs on the front. The other one is Wolfsheimer, G (2003) "The guide to owning bettas". But I think you have the right one, it's the only one with the "Amaising gravity-defying BBS hatchery" :alright: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies Betta Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 I got this expanation from www.exotictropicals.com The Julii Cory is probably the most popular and often sold Cory. It is active and very pretty! It has bold central horizontal stripes, a spotted body, and six spotted bands on it's tail! and also the pic. I once got 3 Julii but they were completely diff to these pics. they had a large black spot at the start of the caudal. Remember finding out what they were, but can't remember now :alright: the LFS that sold them to me now have diff cories under the name Julii, I'll find out 2moz for u Klara :cheer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 The c. julii has a broken spotty horizonal stripe on it's body. see here: http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/calli...ydora/378_1.php I'm certain that the corys in your pic are also c. trilineatus not c.julii. It's the c. trilineatus that have bold stripes along their body. Here's a story about the mixup: http://www.planetcatfish.com/cotm/2001_04.php And pics of c. trilineatus variations: http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/calli...ydora/508_f.php You can see why the spotty c. trilineatus are easily mixed up with c.julii but the reticulated version looks completely different, I don't know how people mix them up. Like Calla I don't think there is such a thing as TRUE trilineatus in Australia, but that shouldn't stop us from trying to find one . C. trilineatus, c.julii and c.leopardus are sometimes placed under the blanket category of spotted corys, guess some people have just given up on trying to ID . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies Betta Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 cheers for fixing that up for me Klara, now I can be on the lookout for some REAL C. Julii by the way, the C. Julii that I had still looked nothing like that :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Why don't you look it up in the plantcatfish cat-e-log I'l guarantee you'll find it there, then tell us what it was so we can keep an eye out for them. You sure it wasn't c. sterbai they look very similar. I love the planet catfish site, it's got info on just about every catfish you could encounter. I knew very little about corys till recently. Corys have got to be the most adorable of all catfish with their big fat cubby bodies and swimming along like a puppy wagging it's tail . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies Betta Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 yep, have to agree. Planet catfish is a good site for catfish info. That's the first place I went to after getting myPeppered Cories (they're so cute ). YAY found the Cory that I had before. It was Corydoras spectabilis or the Millenium Cory http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/calli...ydora/249_1.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Neat, I haven't seen them before, but I'll keep my eye out. SLS had some interesting corys in recently, wonder if c. spectabilis was amongst them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 I guess they call them julii for the same reason as they sell clowntail bettas even though they know they are crowntails! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Well kind of.... It's more like the b. splenden and b. imbellis mix up, except on a much larger scale. (best example I could think of) clowntails, red dragon, monsters, rabbit faced, half sun, full moon are just more descriptive (creative) terms for different characteristics of the same species. Whereas julii and trilineatus are different species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 I meant the "we import them as that, so we sell them as that" excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 Yeah true... Sad news, Linus the one on top in the second pic has suddenly fallen seriously ill . I've put him in a seperate tank with TC but I think it's too late, he's floating upside down, loosing colour fast and barely breathing. I've got no idea what went wrong, I introdued them to the water slowly, water chemistry was stable, they looked healthy and active when I first brought them home it's got me stumped. Maybe it was something to do with the frozen bloodworms, but I fed the same to all my fish, everyone else is fine. If he doesn't make it I'll have to speak to the LFS, I've only had them 1 day, hopefully if nothing else they give me another on a discount, I had to save up all week for these two , I was really looking forward to these corys. I'm treating Shorty too, just incase it's contagious, so far Shorty is active as usual, but I'm watching her like a hawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted September 11, 2005 Report Share Posted September 11, 2005 maybe try worming him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishy Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hmm.. klara, i just bought a whole lot of cory's from qld and i'm in doubt about what they all are. I know one is a panda and another is a c. sterbai but the other two, one was c. puntatus (sp?) not sure about the other one.. think it may be c. elegant (sp?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure_8 Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 my cory's didn't take well to avitrol plus, so be very cautious if you do worm them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies Betta Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Sorry to hear Klara I really do hope he pulls through, as they are the cutest things to watch zooming around the tank. Mishy, you got a Panda Cory?!!! Pics plz (they're one of my fav cories) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betta_Di Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Hi Guys, remember that Corys are scaleless and as such should be given less than half the dosage of any medications. They are also VERY suseptible to nitrate/nitrite peaks, even very small ones. Cheers, Di Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishy Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Robbie, my sister (not the 16 yr old, the other one) hijacked my baby panda.. he's so cute... mum hijacked my c. elegant and i'm left with the sterbai and c. punctatus. I'll try take a pic of the panda, but I got to get me a pic hosting page first :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najoha Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I have Panda Cory, sterbai and pygmy in a species tank also a peppered in the community tank. They are fantastic to watch. They love the river sand substrate and LOVE live bw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies Betta Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 :) poor Mishy. If I were ur sis I'd also steal it If u want, send the pic over to me and I'll put it in my photobucket acc :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_dragonfly Posted September 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 I know Di, thanks for the reminder, He didn't make it, died not long after I posted . Possibly new diet, stress, didn't adjust to the water? (the water tested normal) There were no physical signs of illness apart from the slight loss of colour moments before he died. I went back the LFS and they sold me another at a discount price. Another spotty c.trilineatus, I was lucky because that was the last spotty one. For some reason I called it Lotus, don't know why, just looked like a Lotus. Hmm.. klara, i just bought a whole lot of cory's from qld and i'm in doubt about what they all are. I know one is a panda and another is a c. sterbai but the other two, one was c. puntatus (sp?) not sure about the other one.. think it may be c. elegant (sp?) Hey that's OK you can send me the pics to my e-mail and I'll put em on my photobucket account. We can try and figure out what they are . Spotty corys can be a pain in the backside to identify, if we work together I'll bet we can identify them faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbies Betta Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Klara, that Lotus shot is wicked. so clear and close-up. good luk with this one :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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