chambo Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Setting up a new aquarium after been out of the hobby for some time. Looking at doing a fish less cycle to establish bacteria. I have looked at the following places to get my hands on a bottle: - 2x Woolworths - 2x Coles - IGA - Franklins - Bunings - Mitre 10 I have also searched exstensively through Google and also Altavista. Do you know the exact where abouts of a store that does carry pure ammonia or ammonium Hydroxide in stock? I am hoping to arrange for a store to post me a bottle. Your assistance is much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv_my_fish Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 A while ago and I went to a few LFS's and asked if they had pure ammonia. They all pretty much laughed at me and said "What do you want that for?! It will kill your fish!!!" One guy told me to just set my tank up as normal and it will sort itself out. Just my experience :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghengis Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 You want to find a specialised Chemical Wholesaler, the type that would sell industrial grade detergents, acids (like Hydrochloric) and the like. They'll almost certainly sell pure, untainted Ammonia. The only problem that you may have is quantities. Certain Wholesalers may only sell in a minimum of, say, 20L drums, but I am sure you will find somewhere selling "retail" quantities, like a litre or two. Let your fingers do the walking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghengis Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 A while ago and I went to a few LFS's and asked if they had pure ammonia. They all pretty much laughed at me and said "What do you want that for?! It will kill your fish!!!" One guy told me to just set my tank up as normal and it will sort itself out. Just my experience Seriously, you gotta wonder how some of these folks manage to stay in business... The kinds of advice I receive for different things, or the advice I hear being given to friends, or even advice I overhear being given to other patrons... It's really no wonder that so many people give this hobby away after only a few months; they've followed to the letter the "advice" given by some of these morons, yet their prized fish have died "for some reason" "What do you want ammonia for? It'll kill your fish...!!!" That's why it's called fishless cycling you f%$#ing pillock! It's so hard to find good help these days... Thank God for the Interwebs and places like this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2jdaze Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I'm sure this topic has come up before... try searching the threads... and I'm SURE I've seen 1L bottles in coles... I remember looking last time this topic came up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambo Posted September 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 After exstensively looking in super markets and the like for pure Ammonia, I also consulted the local exsperts on all things fish related at my LFS's I was given the same response, " Oh no, you dont want Ammonia, you want a chemical that rids ammonia, or, you should buy a bottle of this bateria in a bottle bull crap that we have had on the shelf for the last 2 years. Ammonia seems to have been a really caustic cleaning thing that people of days gorn had to use when alot of the current cleaning soloutions where not available. I stuckk a heap of dirty golf fish in the tank to get it started, only seeing ammonia readings in the 0.1 ppm range, looking at the aritcles on fishless cycling with optimum readings being between 4.0 & 5.0 PPM for peak bacteria development, I may be in for a long wait till the tank will be sufficently estabilshed. If everyone that reads this could keep an eye out for a bottle of the stuff next time they go throught the cleaning isle at there supper market for me please. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghengis Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Sincerest apologies for quoting myself, however... You want to find a specialised Chemical Wholesaler... Let your fingers do the walking... This is the best chance you will have at finding pure A-grade Ammonia. Most all Supermarket sourced Ammonia will contain some sort of surfactant. Either that, or you'll run up a serious fuel bill looking from store to store... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canfeleq Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I have kept aquariums, both freshwater and marine, for over twenty years and have never used ammonia to cycle a tank. You will get the same result if you set up your tank, add plants and some fish food. As the food breaks down it creates ammonia. Trust me...it works, and is a lot easier than trying to find pure ammonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambo Posted September 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 I have kept aquariums, both freshwater and marine, for over twenty years and have never used ammonia to cycle a tank. You will get the same result if you set up your tank, add plants and some fish food. As the food breaks down it creates ammonia. Trust me...it works, and is a lot easier than trying to find pure ammonia. I lack the patience, but I guess I will have to find it.... THanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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