jumper Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 nice postings! jsut the queries i had in my mind! now just to add a bit here... how do you sterilize plants n live fish!? if they were int he same tank ( even for a day) that means they have been in contact with the source of infection (w ahtever that is) and no signs of illness surely do not mean that they are completely sterile from it , they might have just a smaller ammount somewhere in their system that may "re-activate" once introduced to the new media?? sorry if am being to long winded but i am getting more skeptical about diseases at this point in time... Joe p.s. : sorry my post didnt add up to help in the previous queries Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 you can sterilise live plants in a mild bleach solution or potassium permanganate. You wouldn't sterilise fish, you'd quarantine them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Soak the plants in the same strength solution as bleaching a tank, but leave them for only 2 minutes. Don't bleach the roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 if you don't bleach the roots, doesn't it defeat the purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 You could kill the roots, and then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure_8 Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 doesn't make much sense to half sterilize something though - the other half will still have the bugslies and you will introduce them to your clean tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 soaking in bleach no matter the dilution will still do some damage to the plant and new buds/new leaves. I have tried it Snail eggs can be on the roots still - so it's not as nearly effective as PP. It's hard to obtain and it's a realy shame!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 soaking in bleach no matter the dilution will still do some damage to the plant and new buds/new leaves. I have tried it Snail eggs can be on the roots still - so it's not as nearly effective as PP. It's hard to obtain and it's a realy shame!! hmmm i think i will just soak them all on a mid solution for 15 mins.. most of my plants aren"t rooty type either they float or "roam" in a bunch i am yet to find the roots ( spawning moss ) i will just soak them and see what happens... If they turn out brown in a couple of days , might have to think of something else then. thanks for the replies guys n gals! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 You'll get white plant-corpses if you leave them for 15 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 You'll get white plant-corpses if you leave them for 15 mins. hmm alright 5 mins should be enough then? thanks for the info too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splendidbetta Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I wouldn't do more than 3 mins. Honestly, I think making a weaker solution and leaving the plants for longer than the 2 mins you would leave them for in a 1:19 bleach solution defeats the purpose... the point is to avoid dead plant bits from happening due to the bleach. If you'll be leaving the plants in for longer you might as well be putting them in a 1:9 for 2mins. Does it make sense to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 why are you sterilising the plants again? why not just treat them with whatever medication you used on the condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 I wouldn't do more than 3 mins. Honestly, I think making a weaker solution and leaving the plants for longer than the 2 mins you would leave them for in a 1:19 bleach solution defeats the purpose... the point is to avoid dead plant bits from happening due to the bleach. If you'll be leaving the plants in for longer you might as well be putting them in a 1:9 for 2mins. Does it make sense to you? yup it does! thanks! why are you sterilising the plants again? why not just treat them with whatever medication you used on the condition? i havent sterilized the plants as yet. i have just been thinking about doing so since i am sterilizing the new aquariums as we speak. since i would imagine that the plants could be carriers of any sorts of nasties as well ( i think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callatya Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Quarantining plants for a while works reasonably well, as does tap water with all its chloriney goodness. I also use Alum for snails and anything else that happens to be in the way. You can use bleach, but it takes about 11minutes to penetrate the bugs to kill them (at 20:1 dilution I think that is) so unless your plants can stick it out that long, its pretty pointless anyway. The only things I'd use it on are anubias and java fern, and even then I'd expect some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 I have never bothered to sterilise plants unless they came from a river etc amd even then it depends where from. when I said "again" I meant remind me agian, not why have you done it more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumper Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 :D no worries, thought u thought i sterilized them twice ! hehe cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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