les Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hi all Affter writing to I dont know how many people trying to find some one who sells Katapang seed I eventualy asked at the shire in Cairns and the guy ther was from Perth so he sent me about ten seed which was so good of him to prep the seed and plant I did as follows Prepare seeds 1. Dehusked the seed (take all vegtable matter away from around the seed kernal) 2. Two seeds left as is 3. Two seeds the kernal slightly opened (use secaters to remove part of the kernal untill the seed shows set to one side Prepare the potting mix 1. place potting mix in small pots and pour boilling water over the potting mix and allow to cool After potting mix cooled I placed the seeds just below the surface of the soil and put the pots into a propagater with bottom heat I labled the seeds so I knew which ones where which and low and behold two weeks later I have two Katapang seeds germinate they wher the ones that had part of the kernal removed (I Use this method when germinating Mangoes) It was an easy job so they have now been placed in the glass house and will be potted on when I have a few more leafs on them cant wait for them to be big enough to plant in the garden Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Sounds interesting Les! I've read that they can reach 35m tall... so hope you have lots of room. Future IAL supplier possibly? Hehe. Which brings the question - how long will it be before you can get leaves (terrible in the plant department myself... um, don't ask Matt about that haha)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Thanks Les if I had room I would now go and find myself some seed. It's very informative. Sarah is terrible with plants, but let's not go into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 LOL at you two It should be about twelve months befor the first drop The size of the tree isnt realy a problem as I will polard them at ten foot then keep the auxilery branchess not to long and prune back each year. This method is used to keep tall trees under control as street trees and should work on the Katapang if not my brother inlaw has a huge property and he wont mind growing some or I could secretly at night plant them all over Perth and call myself The Katapang Ninja cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) The Ketapang Ninja - I like it, I like it a lot! Sounds like a good plan (even though it went straight over my head.. ahhh). Good luck, keep us updated! They are deciduous, yes? You have to pick up the fallen leaves, rather than the pick the IAL's off the tree, right? If this is correct... I'm going to be so proud of myself (Matt I didn't google!) :D Edited August 7, 2011 by Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Thats correct Princess Botanica When trees get ready to lose there leave a certain amout of nutrients and elements are taken back in to the tree thus the leaves turn brown and drop of but in this process certain elements are left in the leaf and this is what every one is after in the tanins that are produced by the leafs I have a break down of an analasis some where of what it is for catapang I would like to try the bark as that should be a consentrait of the leaf but first and formost you where right the leaves have to brown and drop to reach ther full potential Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffy Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Ive read that the sap that is withdrawn from the leaf is noxious in an aquarium environment, thats why you have to wait for the tree to withdraw it rather then picking leaves, i would guess the bark would contain this sap as well ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Not sure about the bark Neffy - I have heard of the bark being used as well, so perhaps this has to also fall off the tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Thus with the two conflicting theories it calls for an EXPERIMENT and time to pull out the VT sisters if they still live by the time the trees are big enough but I am sure there will be other VT girls thowing there fins up to volenteer LOL Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffy Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Ahh i wasnt aware the bark also came of the tree, I bet itd be in the same way the leaf does and sap free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I not aware in any of the articals I have read the it actualy sheds it bark but I have heard conflicting stories that it is poisness and that it isnt so I thought id put it to rest by running an experiment I cant say that no animals will be hert but but it will be run humainly like all the others and documented so results can be posted with every experiment ther is allways risk Cheers les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 never did seen a spawn log for trees. can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 They are tropical, why are the decidous? I knew they were but never knew why. Is it because of the dry season? It looses it's leaves when the ground drys up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Hi Mighty Matt I think that could be a good reason ther are trees from south america like the jacaranda they are originall from jungels ther are a number of other trees that come from similer climates that do the same some gingers are deciduase so this kind of behavier in botanical speicies is not just restricted to temprate zones you can also find evergreens in extreamly cold conditions (Aint nature grand) Hey Ness do you meen pictures or me feeding the two darlings LOL Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) Les (a dose of your own medicine) YES PHOTOS PLEASE PHOTOS , I want to know what POT they're in - what they looked like when they were... whatevering.... Just being cheeky - actually i'm interested in what the seeds looked like - but might be a bit late for that! :P Edited August 9, 2011 by melbournebetta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettarazzi Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Der... the seeds look like ALMONDS!! *lol* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 a bit like an almond kernal but longer and they have a realy nice almond tast the fruit its self is green and sort of like dull looking I have only seen pictures of the trees. The first set of leaves are just unfolding so as I have to takke Alex to scholl tomerow Ill ask her for her camera a get a pic I need to do a few pics of whats in the spawn tanks anyway Cheers les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melbournebetta Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 i want a spawn log of the trees nom nom nom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 LOL I love the pic like that only longer almost celindrical but yumy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 (edited) Katapang babies only two in this spawn< they dont look much but seem to be growing quite fast and hear is a spawn of bisexual PawPaw these are therd Gen in my garden and one more for Ness second gen Banana all will be used in some way with the Betta Cheers les Edited August 14, 2011 by les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 You can use Paw paw for bettas? I'll have to grow myself one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted August 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Well I eat the PawPaw whilst watching the fish but they do have antibacterial properties so I think I will try and find a way of using it as an antibacterial maby in a salve form on the skin I just have to find some fish with bacterial infections and see how it works out If you can get hold of the bisexual PawPaw you will only need one tree as it polinates its self otherwise you need a male plant and a female plant in order to produce fruit Ill send some seed if you like Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 Oooh I hope it works out for you. That would be great Les, I need to clear some room OR build a new bed first. Are will they all be bisexual? Or will I get some males and some females as well. What variety of Banana is that? I'm wanting to grow one, it would be lady finger, do they work?by the way, how are the melelueca leaves going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 You are nuts Les. Lol. How long do they take (IAL) ti grow to useful size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv_my_fish Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Glad you finally found some Les! Sorry that my 'contact' never contacted me back about them lol. He WAS from Cairns, so I was close lol Edited August 15, 2011 by luv_my_fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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