les Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hi Sara Master I come seeking knoledge my question is When an Axolotl morphs can they still breed or do they have to breed before they become Salamadas? I am only asking as I would love to get a morphed Axol and build for him a world worthy Cheers Water Changer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Dearest Water Changer, I very much doubt they will breed, once morphed. Tiger Salamanders rarely breed in captivity, and they naturally morph. I would think morphed axies would be far too weak to breed, as well. As for getting a morphed axie, it is entirely up to you, but they probably won't live long at all - maybe a year or two if you are lucky. Neotenic axolotls (the un-morphed ones, in the water) are a far better choice in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Thank you Master Your wisdom flows into a cup and I am enlightend from drinking from it Water changer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 Les you're so awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Updated pics. They are sure taking their time to morph, 2wks max was the expected amount, but it's been much longer than that. Somebody suggested they could be morphing slowly, which COULD mean it gives them a better chance - but these are guesses, not facts. Sonriente - *ONLY HOLDING HIM FOR THE PICTURE... I DON'T ACTUALLY HANDLE THEM* Sonriente seems more morphed in his head, and body - but not his legs (should be thicker). Feliz, on the otherhead appears to have the eyes going on, with the thick legs nearly done - but his body is still in the neotenic form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Yes, his legs shoudl be wayyy thicker. Can we see Feliz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Thanks, Matt. Feliz - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadoh Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Once morphed, do they still have the ability to re-grow limbs etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 No, they loose all of those abilities so any injury could be permanently disablling or may even cause it to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Hey Sarah those pics are awsome. I have seen the one of Matts and his is ammazing as well. Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Little 'lotl pics. Not very good because of the plastic container they are in - but you can see they have grown, and have lovely gills. Little lottie Lindo. More piccies to come. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Hambriento! He has lightened up a little bit, not quite as dark as he used to be. Bit of a belly at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Are they stressed? Their gills are curled forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Only curled forward as I had just moved them about 20secs before pics. They're fine now. Oh, and above Hambriento - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Ahhh makes sense, how are the morphs going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Oh yes, interesting news about the morphs. They have decided to start growing a few gill filaments, where morphs SHOULD be losing them completely, until they disappear altogether. They are also eating - which morphs shouldn't be doing. BUT I was 100% sure they were morphing, I'm sure they even blinked, which means eyelids... So, now I'm pretty confused. Asked Ed, he doesn't know.. said it was strange, but he was certain they were morphing. Same with Alex & Oliva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Strange, how are you keeping them now then? Explains why they looked so unusual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm keeping them just the same - with water covering them, and they are able to climb out. No idea what's going on then.Justin says if the gills are growing back, they aren't and weren't morphing. VERY odd. I was certain, they had all the signs, even eyelids... and once the morphing starts, you CAN'T reverse it.. False alarm? Confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Maybe they were just ill and you mistook it as morphing? I read somewhere that axies can pull their eyes back into their heads a teeny bit and can be mistacken as blinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Well I guess that has to be it. I've seen axies pull their eyes into their head, and I've also seen Bastante blink (the one that WAS morphing and died)... they look very different, once you've seen the two. Their body shaped changed, and one time Sonriente came out of the water, and waved his tail at me in the defense some salamanders have (although Amystomids aren't known of doing this - it was suggested that they were just getting the hang of morphing, everything is strange, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I saw an image of an opacum doing the tail thing yesterday... This is so strange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Oh really? Can you find it please? Indeed, very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_95 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Can't find it but theres a mavoritum doing it on this page, next to the melanoid one http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.caudata.org/cc/images/species/Ambystoma/A_mavortium3REILLEY.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Ambystoma/A_tigrinum.shtml&usg=__-8FHhGek-wUZH0vuXbrOyRasc6M=&h=204&w=350&sz=24&hl=en&start=2&zoom=1&tbnid=DZSrJSuGvJ8wqM:&tbnh=70&tbnw=120&ei=ojbwTpTSBLHPmAXvka2AAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dopacum%2Bunken%2Breflex%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Oh cool, thanks! I was pretty sure it was unheard of in Ambystomas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hambriento, my wildtype little 'lotl died today. He was very skinny and had fungus - not sure what happened really... he was eating less, but still eating. Poor guy. Hambriento. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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