Batch testing and wild bettas

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Just getting this thread back on topic, here is the Provisional final import risk analysis report for freshwater ornamental finfish with respect to the quarantine risks associated with gourami iridovirus and related viruses PDF from Boronia's site.

Does anyone know if there is a "country, zone or compartment that is recognised by Australia to be free of megalocytiviruses (based on active surveillance)" as per the document?

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There goes the neighbourhood :rip:

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I think to hold much chance of swaying this in the industries favour it would be necessary to get the attention of the media. I have a small amount of experience on this kind of topic.

I wrote to Senator Chris Evans regarding a personal matter at one point, I did get a reply but it was just an acknowledgment I suppose and a repitition of bureaucratic ******** that I already knew. I've seen changes happen but you need a lot of public support to put pressure behind your letters, faxes etc and that comes through the media. Will fish get their attention? I hate to be pessimistic but if you compare it to some of the social issues out there... well... economically I really don't know but it sounds by this thread that slim to nothing is being done on that end. I think if media attention is wanted economically, you need BIG numbers, how many jobs lost? how much money?

HOWEVER, doing nothing certainly won't change a thing!

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If all the small to medium importers get wiped out, the big importers will get even bigger. We might have to start liking veiltails again.

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If all the small to medium importers get wiped out, the big importers will get even bigger.

We've got that problem with free trade and multinationals taking over. That hasn't stopped it, not even by public support. Depends how big the opposing side is, in this case what they think they have to gain by bringing this in.

Suppose it all happens, one thing is to try to alter whats on the market by not buying veiltails for eg. if no one buys, no one sells and thus try to get the big importers to bring in what we want...

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If you are serious about helping save the hobby then start writing.

Send a letter (fax a copy and then mail the original) to your local member, the commonwealth ombudsman, DAFF, Tony Burke, John Cobb and anyone else you think may be able to help.

Do not rant - just state how the legislation will affect you, how it will affect your LFS (it is important to highlight the financial loss to these businesses and the community - loss of jobs (especially for young people), do they sponsor clubs, support shows, maintain tanks at schools/nursing homes?? etc).

State how disappointed you are that the hobby groups (eg QFAS, EDAS etc) were not consulted (find out who your hobby groups are in your region)

State your fears for the hobby eg creation of an Importing Duopoly, only large "super stores" will survive (Creating a Coles/Woolworths marketplace)

Needless sacrifice of fish; why is industry so over-regulated and controlled? etc

If you are stuck I can email a copy of the letter I have sent. Please tailor this to your needs though - don't just send an exact copy.

Join the DAFF stakeholder group (IMPORTANT-you must do this before sending your response to them):

http://www.daff.gov.au/ba/stakeholder

then send your reply to:

http://www.daff.gov.au/ba/ira/current-animal/ornamental_finfish/2010-22_baa

Contact details for the Commonwealth ombudsman:

http://www.ombudsman.gov.au/pages/contact-us/

Contact details for Tony Burke:

http://www.tonyburke.com.au/file.php?file=/contact.html

Shadow Minister for Agriculture, Food Security, Fisheries and Forestry

http://www.johncobb.com.au/

Sitting members State Government:

http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/legislativeAssembly/members.asp?area=members&LIndex=1&Subarea=members

http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3ListCurrentMembers

(please add other states if you know the link)

Sitting members Federal Government:

http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/mi-elctr.asp

Thank-you. Appreciate any help/support you can offer.

someone

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I hope that this doesn't go through. I had a quick chat about this situation with my sister. My sister currently works as a marine biologist, even she tells me that it is madness. It's taking the most severe action of control. Sad!!

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This is the poster that lyrical posted on Facebook. I'm linking to the FB page. Hopefully you can see it. Not sure if you have to be logged in to FB.

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The actual source of the poster and an explanatory document:

http://www.boroniaaquarium.com.au/press/cms_files/The%20survival%20of%20the%20aquarium%20industry%20is%20at%20risk.pdf

http://www.boroniaaquarium.com.au/press/cms_files/Biosecurity%20Flyer%20082010.pdf

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Discussion arising from Lyrical's thread is here

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What do we think about starting a Twitter campaign? Those of us with accounts can regularly tweet (and retweet) @Tony_Burke, #batchtesting, #iridovirus. Would need a lot of us doing it in order to be effective.

The benefit of Twitter is that it is very public. Easy to send short comments. And there will be press who are following Tony Burke's tweets.

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What would the tweets say?

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We could express our unhappiness at the situation. Comment on the science. Impact on industry. Impact on hobby. That sort of thing.

It kinda doesn't matter what the tweets say. It's more about applying pressure and letting the minister know that it's an issue we care about.

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Well then I think it's a good idea.

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But if it's just going to be you and me, it's going to look pretty lame LOL

And I should add that I've never tweeted before. Or is that twittered? And I've only got one follower who I know nothing about except that she's blonde and Russian. *lol*

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LOL, I don't even have a Twitter account yet :P

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Now I do:

https://twitter.com/biosymphony

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ill tweet and re-tweet as well

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I will when I get a chance :)

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Well looks likes the Twitter campaign is ON!! I made a couple of tinyurls for the Boronia Aquarium docs.

Dr Richmond Loh's paper http://tinyurl.com/2ub4d6k

The shop flyer http://tinyurl.com/26mqfc3

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Someone with some spare time should make a good Facebook group for this too.

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Sorry Michael, to be dense - what do we do with tinyurl's? :)

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They are short URLs that redirect to pages that have long URLS. They are useful for things like tweets and blog comments where such long URLs take up too much space.

I created a Facebook group! "Reject The Iridovirus IRA Report", http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=150908138262236&ref=nf

Join and share it!

http://tinyurl.com/reject-iridovirus-ira-report

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yeah I know what they are, just not where to post them :)

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Ah, sorry :)

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